However, if you manage the goats correctly, most goats should never need a dewormer in their entire lives. It kind of depends on which genetics are really coming through. And how much should they be eating? If the kid wants more, thats fine. Id call them and ask them if you can bring him back so they can show you how he takes a bottle because you have been unable to get enough milk into him. How Much Does a Goat Cost? - Backyard Goats 5 oz then 8 oz then about 16 oz! Bet firm. My poor baby Elspeth (thats her name) died last night. Goats do not get colds like human do. She was doing a good job cleaning them up but was taking too long (she delivered in 20 degree temps and outside the pen we had for her). I am also concerned if they sold you a single goat, if you have no other goats. Also, Im concerned with their safety re. I have never had a bottle baby goat. One time the does kid didnt survive and another time the die (first freshening) rejected her own kid but allowed other kids to nurse her. Should I be feeding them 32 ounces of milk at age 4 months? Hello, Im new to bottle feeding baby goats. How To Care for Baby Goats - The Happy Chicken Coop The kid can be given a dewormer whenever its needed, but it takes time for a goat to get a load of parasites that is so heavy that it negatively affects their health, and you dont normally see goats with worm problems until they are at least several weeks old. A baby goat is called a kid, and kids can be weaned as early as 30 days but ideally 6 to 8 weeks. Ive read through the comments above but Id like to know your thoughts. He was given a shot of antibiotics and an anti inflammatory. You can get a goat feed, such as Purina Goat Chow. No one should ever take kids this age from their mom because this when they are gaining weight so fast and really need her milk. You dont need to change anything about the feedings. Like from the table above a day old baby goat should consume 10% of milk in respect to it body size per . One is about 5 mths now and doing great the other passed right after weening we still dont know why. At first he would only eat an oz or two and that was forcing him. It depends somewhat on the doe and if shes mourning the loss of her kids. Just keep trying, and shell get the hang of it. Small does not equal weak, especially a few days after birth. A traumatic birth can cause a doe to reject kids. Drench just means an oral medication. What is the correct amount to feed these babies? I just want to make sure she is getting what she needs. If you really want to add a little half and half to increase the butterfat for pygmies, you can, but thats it. My Doe had quads, and they are all doing great, but the runt is only 1 lb. It usually takes a really strong scent or odor to cause a mother to be unable to smell her baby. This means that it holds about 2 - 5 ounces of milk at a time. Is it too soon to take them from her ? She wanted nothing to do with it!! The brand claims they're "developed to be as close as possible to breast milk" and each includes a blend of powdered organic milk, organic vegetable oils, and important vitamins and minerals . Weighs 37oz as of this evening, up from birth weight of 33oz. 1 can evaporated milk. It can take several days or even a week sometimes. He is feeling so much better. He was nursing from mom when I bought him. There is nothing wrong with giving them milk for a longer period of time. Far too many buyers have been told that the kids would switch over and they seldom do. Goat Feed: Your 5-Minute Guide - Boer Goat Profits Guide I am pregnant and cant get out there to milk them and with his job, it is very difficult. If it does, it ferments like everything else in the rumen, and it can make them sick. Two sweet males that are alpine mixed with Nubian! I have a heat lamp in there and a little hut they can go into. We have a 2 week old Nigerian pygmy baby who was rejected at birth so weve been bottle feeding since. It can just be used as a treat. When they consume milk, their head needs to be up so that the esophageal groove closes and the milk goes directly into their second stomach. He was running a high fever. We are getting our first goats ! There is no difference in these things for a bottle baby or dam-raised kid. To an inexperienced person it may look like kids are rough when theyre nursing, but its normal and not a big deal. How to Care for a Rejected Baby Goat - Backyard Goats We picked up antibiotics from the vet but I do not see an improvement. Anemia is caused only by barber pole worm or coccidia. What kind of milk are you feeding? 3.7lbs to 4.12lbs. I hadnt had to restrain her to milk her. But, you may find yourself without access to goat milk. The B vitamin recommendation makes no sense and would not be helpful. She also has a problem with her utters get plugged. His brother and sister are normal size but he is extremely tiny. If he is five weeks old, he may have coccidiosis at this point, which is the reason for the diarrhea and he has coccidiosis because he is not getting enough milk so he is stressed, and his immune system just cant deal with the coccidia. We had a runt that was almost 1/2 the size of the others (1 of 5). Stick your finger in their mouth. And yes we have adult Nigerians and lambs (his buddy is a little girl lamb). Baby goats are either mother-raised or bottle fed, and it's important to know which yours is. If you see different amounts, its probably because people are not talking about how much the kids weigh, and obviously a boer would need a LOT more milk than a fainter. It will fall off when its ready. If I put the nipple in his mouth he will freeze and lock up letting the milk roll out of his mouth. Is this too much milk or too little? At this point, she has to make up for lost time. I had a fecal done a d it came back positive for coccidia. If the diarrhea coincides with when you switched to two bottles, then I would definitely suspect that is the cause. Check their mouth every 15 minutes until it feels warm, then work on the things I mentioned about getting the colostrum into them. One of the sisters has now refused a bottle for 24 hours. Milk replacer and cow milk are distant seconds. That is not a normal part of a goats diet. I usually castrate at 2 months. I took in an orphan, 10-day old 3/4 myotonic, 1/4 Nubian bottle baby, weighs 6.5#. I want to make sure I am doing everything to give them a happy and healthy life. If they do not get enough nutrients at this age, they will grow very slowly and wont be big enough to breed until they are closer to two years old if at all. Eventually she will be excellent at it. Triplets born this am. Id suggest taking him out to her when its time for another bottle and see how he nurses. Thank you. A kid may be born too small or weak to be able to nurse. Also, along with their bottles, some yard grazing and hay, should we introduce grain? Do you know how many goats this vet sees? Here is a post I wrote about multiples: https://thriftyhomesteader.com/how-many-kids-can-doe-feed/. Im sorry I have another question. Did you ever have baby goat that waves his head back and forth I noticed my neighbors baby goat does that.. he drinks his bottle pretty good.. it cries a lot. She should have been close to 10 pounds by that time. She should have been born with teeth. I really dont see how a lambar would save you time with only two kids. They should be at last 40 pounds before being bred. They do not get worms from other goats. You really need to put her with other goats. Luckily you got one of those! The individual prefers not to bottle feed which is why I ended up with him. I just picked up a 4 day old buckling from a neighbor who had them for sale. You need to use the mathematical formulas in the article to figure out how much they need to eat. Thanks so much! But that doesnt always work either. Sorry I just saw this. Babies are all bottle fed with what milk she CAN produce at this time (about 4 cups/day), another dams milk who only had one surviving doeling, and the milk from another doe that Ive been milking for a year and a half. In hindsight I see I should have weaned the bigger kid and kept feeding the smaller one, she just seemed to refuse to grow no matter how much she got to eat! He is 20 days old. Youre absolutely right when you said that we should keep feeding baby goats with milk for up to 24 weeks. Its not unusual for kids to want more milk that they can safely consume just as adults will eat so much grain that it can make them sick and even kill them. Hi, They weigh ~10 pounds each. Nigerian milk averages 6.5% butterfat, so even whole milk from the store is not really rich enough, but it will do for a kid that age. You hold the bottle in the kids mouth and dont let go. She is old enough that shed survive if she didnt get more milk, but its not ideal for her to quit. Coccidiosis is caused by coccidia, so no worries on milk causing that problem. What you are describing is not normal. Thats the size of a newborn! He has now started taking 2-4 oz at each feeding without being forced. Hi, we just got our first two girl baby goats. At one month, offer hay, small amounts of grain, fresh water, and pasture time to a baby goat. there is one baby girl now, and im so afraid she is deteriorating. I didnt know i shoukd NOT bottle feed my baby goathe has had two weeks of bad diarhea , and didnt give him milk so I gave him water and gaideraid, then we changed to homo milk and 2 days later all better But I have still been giving him lots of water in a bottle and his urine is red today for the first time. Prices per bale vary from $5 to $20. Below is a video of two kids getting their first bottle. Weve been successful in getting her to take the bottle, just never very much at one time. I have a 8 day old and a 12 day old. If it looks like you squirted mustard all over their back end, then youre giving them too much in one bottle. Her mom isnt terribly mean to her, occasionally buts her away and nips at her. After checking on them a couple of times he was always by himself and she didnt seem so have much to do with him. I have offered alfalfa, but they are not into it. The dilution is 3 ounces of Corid to 1 pint of water, so if you give 1.2 cc NON-diluted to the kid, you are over-dosing her exponentially IF that is the Corid that the vet gave you, and IF it is NOT diluted. You should warm some cow milk and then put it into an ordinary baby bottle with a teat to feed it to the kid. Without moms antibodies in fresh goat milk, the kids will be more likely to have problems with worms and coccidia, which is why some people use medicated milk replacer, which helps prevent coccidiosis. Hi! The last one took it the second day. Hey so my doe got pregnant when she wasnt supposed to! Thank you for all your help. I have a 5 1/2 week old female ND bottle baby. I have just bought a two month old billy. The other possibility is an infection. Sure, its cute and fun until the kid is running around and eating your mail and chewing up your extension cords and dancing on top of your CD player. First time owners. The older they are when introduced to other goats, the harder time they have emotionally separating from you because they think youre mom. And if they are in the house and you have a dog, they love baby goat poop. Ill ask him to consider this option so hell make the right purchase later. She has access to hay and a pasture. Any other recommendations are appreciated. But usually if youve been trying for a few days and a doe is still rejecting a kid, she has her mind made up. Nigerian kids should gain 4 ounces per day. We got her Saturday and its now Thursday.and shes still not taking much. At this point, the kids wont try to nurse again because theyre bottle babies, so the doe wont be as aggressive with them. Unsure of age as he was abandoned and found drowning at work. This is just the minimum. If the doe is a first freshener, I would have already started because they rarely produce enough milk for triplets. Disaster. After all, the goal of feeding milk to kids is so they can grow big and healthy. It would be easier on the kid if you mixed it with whatever goat milk you have so that you arent completely changing the milk from one bottle to the next. You need to weigh them anyway, if you are planning to bottle-feed so that you know how much milk they need. You need a fecal to determine exactly whats wrong. We were always breeding 6-10 does at a time so we usually had plenty of milk for the kids and to sell. In fact, they should have hay and/or pasture available most of the time. If you decide to get another goat, be sure to buy from a reputable breeder and buy at least two. This may mean trying more often for shorter periods of time. They have been fighters! You stick the bottle in their mouth, and theyre screaming, and then SWITCH, they start sucking like a pro. This helps them learn that this is how they get milk. They need to cuddle up with others to stay warm. please, if you could get back to me that would be great. It could be because shes still getting used to the bottle. If the diarrhea was caused by too much milk, it should stop as soon as you cut back on the amount of milk youre feeding. 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